We had connectivity problems at the beginning… and the dreaded Dead Air.
Rita joined us 🙂 for a while.
Rick was first and we didn’t get to hear how he started in this field… The sound cut out during his answer to the “First Event” question that Jimmy always askes. Rick and Maurice Sinnett run Strange Happenings Investigations.
We had role call and ironed out the bugs, then Les told the story of his beginnings. He was 9 years old when he and his dad were getting things ready for a yard sale and he came across a book on Big Foot. He read the whole thing and was hooked. He loved the TV show show ‘In Search Of’. His favorite footage of BF is the Patterson-Gimlin footage.
His first book on magic was by Raymond Buckland:
Les tells us there are 4 major categories of BF
- Patterson-Gimlin: human being body shape hairy 7ft -12 ft tall
- Large incisors maybe inbred: abnormalities in face mostly seen as Yowie’s from Australia
- Neanderthal type in body
- Orang Pendek
others may include
Yeti: Abominable Snowman Nepal
Here is a lovely database of every country in the world and their name for Big Foot! http://cryptozoo.monstrous.com/bigfoot_names.htm
Then Rick shared a BF experience he had while camping around Clark’s Fork, hearing howling as a kid and tree knocks. His dad Maurice, lived on Whidbey Island around Seattle. One night he was retrieving a part for Rick out of his shed while they were on the phone with each other. It was very dark, the whole island is 70-80% forest and there are many sightings there. In the background he could hear the crickets over the phone and the gravel crunch under is dad’s feet as he walked, it is so quiet there. Then, he heard a howl…. Heard it again. It was really loud even over the phone, which father and son decided meant that BF was really close and his dad said the part would have to wait…he went back into house.
Bryan’s experience was next. In around 80′-81′ on a late summer labor day weekend, in Washington state, below Olympia – close to the (?)woops reactors. Bryan was on a 3 day week end camping trip with a friend, John, and his folks. It was 6 am, they were up b/4 everybody else playing.
Bryan said to his friend, “John, tell me you are seeing what I am seeing!” as he indicated the top of the water fall.
It was an adolescent female BF . They were standing at the bottom of the waterfall and she was at the top looking down at them. She was human looking – not ape type, a thin layer of red auburn hair only about 7 ft. Not thick hair, because they could see body shape through backlight from above. They speculated that her coat was thinner because it was summer. It was a hot summer that year in the mid 90’s. There was NO disproportion in arm length – completely human proportion. Her gate was human. (lock knee) She had a little hunch at shoulders, but not much – another indication of adolescence. All three just stood there looking at each other for about 5 minutes. No body freaked out – everybody was just watching everybody… both of them stood in stunned amazement. The other sounds were morning bird sounds, not noise, no squirrels, the water fall was loud and they were only 30 ft. across the water at 20 yds. away from the water fall. She might have gotten got bored, she turned around and walked to the other side of the bank south, away from them casually, she looked back once and then was gone. They decided not to climb the cliff to find her. It was a peaceful encounter. They heard one large snap after she disappeared out of sight, but all else normal. They didn’t report it because they were only 10-11 years old.
Rick – telepathic big foot hard to wrap head around… We need to talk to his dad… he has forgotten more than most know about BF. Maurice has spoken with Dr. Jeff Meldrum extensively about BF, he is a Professor of Anatomy and Anthropology and a Professor of the Department of Anthropology at Idaho State University.
Steve Bunker’s father saw BF in Nam – there they are called wood apes.
- If you are strong enough to dead lift a Volkswagen… you have no need for tools
- Rumored that BF used to use fire b/4 man encroached on his habitat, no longer because now we could find them from it.
- Super-sized Neanderthal – could be a remnant of the archons?
- Using stone age tools. Hearsay: will steal tools – larger knives, use ancient stone tools. They have to be bigger tools because of their size. They also use their sharp fingernails as tools – to skin a deer.
Dave is in the Mt. Shasta area and has heard of sightings. He has a buddy in Oregon – BF tracker that got a casting. Seeing and bringing back evidence is what he believes.
How do they communicate?
- infra sound
- Infra sound can make you ill –
- freeze you – tigers use it – reports – 20 ft. away can hear low growl sub harmonics
- hand signals
- tree knocks Jane Goodall – they are ambush hunters.
The reality shows are so bogus…the people in the shows are probably miscommunicating with BF – messing up their hunts and making them angry.
- Wood knocks behind and in front of you on trail – as in he’s coming toward you – you are prey. On a game trail one will be behind to flush game forward to the one in front.
Brian: No one ever severely molested by big foot – there was one report about an abduction for reproductive reasons.
- Albert Ostman (died 1975) was a Canadian prospector who reported that he was abducted by a Sasquatch and held captive for six days. He stated that the event took place near Toba Inlet, British Columbia in 1924. On August 20, 1957, police magistrate A.M. Naismith wrote an affidavit which states “…I found Mr. Ostman to be a man of sixty-four years of age; in full possession of his mental faculties. Of pleasant manner and with a good sense of humor. I questioned Mr. Ostman thoroughly in reference to the story given by Mr. Green. I cross-examined him and used every means to endeavor to find a flaw in either his personality or his story, but could find neither…” Albert Ostman also signed a Solemn Declaration indicating that his account of the Sasquatch story was true under oath and by virtue of the Canadian Evidence Act. From <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Ostman>
- Sleeping bag abduction… kidnapped wanted for female big foots
(Plural – is foots)
I told Jimmy it’s a VALID question!!! #bstrange Bigfoot!!
Bryan related a story about a guy he worked with at Boeing. The guy got kidnapped for breeding purposes. Nice guy wore rope belt and a back pack full of rocks ? Because the gravity on his home world was stronger – so he said.
When he didn’t come to work for a month they called wife, she didn’t know where he was. A month later he comes back to work and they are terminating him. He said he went camping when he was taken by BF for breeding. He just managed to escape a few days before he came back. A psychiatrist from work backed up his story which made it official legal jargon, and he didn’t lose his job because of this legal documentation.
Reality shows are a joke. Alex Mistretta needs his OWN reality show ! (we all agree) BUT producers have an image of what different people look like per their clothing:
- Cryptid hunters: north face jacket
- Ghost hunters: skintight Ed Hardy shirts. baggy pants pho-hawks
- UFO investigators: hodge podge explorers of the amazon, but high use of hair products
- All manufactured marketing ploy for advertiser revenue
Reality show irks: ghost adventures take 12 hours investigate. Not including paper work and arm chair chasing before the investigation. The history – takes lots of time. At Maury Island Rick and his dad had days of travel time -a 12 hour investigation and paper work. This is all condensed into one hour show. Nobody sees all that goes into the production of a show.
Today we lost: Wes Craven Dr. Wayne Dyer and Dr. Sacs: but at least we still have ) John Carpenter Seems to go in threes.
Wes Craven, iconic horror movie director, dies at 76: kake.com/home/headlines…
(Drive ins nightmare on elm street good memories)
Alex (Mistretta) is real – no sugar coating, no leading to believe his agenda, in his web site or his book ‘The Presence’. Some people are confused as to the difference between a skeptic and a debunker:
Debunker calls bull shit on everything,
A Skeptic makes no assumptions and does no leading. A skeptic researches and says this is what I have found..
Alex is a Skeptic. Rick is a fan… 🙂
Truth/proof/evidence/conclusions/ possibilities/ not set in stone – must keep an open mind.
BF doesn’t kidnap women and children for reproduction but because they are easy game . Yosemite: children in bright colors are taken the most, statistically speaking.
You Tube video – man remembers a BF leading him back to his campsite, a female. She reminded him of a big curious George.
Do BFs have Intelligence – maternal instinct? Animals are intelligent and have emotions :
Robin Williams and Koko’s first meeting, and then her reaction when he passed
Koko has a concept of death and sadness – fully understands is he gone.
Koko was taught amslan sign language. Speculation that all apes are capable of understanding. Newer version of planet of the apes reboot..
Can apes talk? The Neanderthal voice was much high than ours determined by looking at the structure of the bones and the tissues they would support.
BF DNA sample – the one from the plank at the invaded house – came up human even on bloody footprint
Right on Rick!!!! The meme name of all of us who listen to this pod cast
Shamanism – Les
He became more pagan in his 30’s because he hated the cultish-ness of all the ‘religions’ He hunted the origins of spirituality.
All mythology used to be a mainstream religion and Christianity was a cult and now its switched today; Catholicism was a cult in the beginning, Druidism was not. Now Druidism is considered a cult.
But are we talking religion or mainstream belief?
Druids are still around but Rick is on the fence, because of the oral passage of information from the Irish and Scotts. An oral tradition means no written no records. All we have is archeological finds that are biased accounts from Greeks and romans. That is all that left because of the invading culture wiping out records to gain control over a population. (roman)
Gardnerian Wicca, or Gardnerian witchcraft, is a tradition in the neopagan religion of Wicca, whose members can trace initiatory descent from Gerald Gardner. The tradition is itself named after Gardner (1884–1964), a British civil servant and scholar of magic. The term “Gardnerian” was probably coined by the founder of Cochranian Witchcraft, Robert Cochrane in the 1950s or 60s, who himself left that tradition to found his own.[1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardnerian_Wicca
Wicca isn’t a religious way of seeing things.
If you were a Druid, you passed on your knowledge to an initiate and then the initiate would study with the druids. Druids were travelling shamans. Druids ate human flesh – during emergencies, for instance when they hid from the romans during the invasion.
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Village to village recruiting. – catholic church did this too, the youngest son was promised. (During middle ages.)
Kill the people; kill the culture, b/c no written language – Wicca was an outcome of druid. Wicca is different for each person.
It only has two rules:2
- And if it harm none do what you will.
- Threefold law. What you send out comes back 3 times magnified.
Rick: The Three Fold Law is very deep – depending on how wise you are. Deep analogy: you smoke, but you smoke when no one is around. However because of your sickness from your affliction, you make your loved ones sad. Kids today – use Wicca to by pass the hard work and use it for service to self, instead of service to others.
People pick and choose religions skimming the surface of them to validate their own behaviors – to ok what they want to do, evading personal responsibility.
Can’t seen to understand that if it serves the community over all and not just someone’s agenda it serves a better purpose. Today we have political agenda and faiths pushing their religions and agendas instead of the common good.
Quote of the night per Rita:
Comment of the night..” Sure. They’re republicans” #bstrange
Something Rick said…. I’m sure 🙂
Agenda in religion is always – control of the people – its what mainstream religion is for. Druid ritual – and catholic mass similar – romans adapted and changed to convert the people. It focuses on differences: divide and conquer. In the ritual, frequencies of songs on geometric spaces and incense sensors were used in all religions, symbolic devices used similar things to convert people.
Today they want us to think Islam is evil … news casts are for divide and conquer. Christians and Catholics/ Islam/ Judaism… not peace loving. The radicals are all the same, militant groups out there to fight and keep the hate going.
ISIS like the Westborough church. Used to promote difference to PROVIDE WAR Jesus as political story – Jesus was screwing up their program, not good for romans or Jewish hierarchy.
Pontius Pilate was a heavy handed governor. “No crap and your taxes’ – Jesus was going to pop his happy bubble… so romans killed him. Muslim belief – Mohammad was their profit – they did no harm to him. Jews killed their profit – Jesus. Did it because #reasons
People fighting over large patch of desert let them do it… why care? Why? Other agenda there. Some groups are trying to engineer the red heifer to get to the end of days. (Dig)
Segway – demons:
Les: Religions and spirits. Do they think demons were originally nature spirits that religion demonized and turned into evil entities? But they are a natural to earth and did we piss them off because of what we have to the earth?
What was a demon in the dark ages – middle ages: Evil spirit = sickness… to the real thing – possessed. Evil entity needing appeasement, give the entity what they wanted was the cure.
Witches who knew how to cure, they were herbalists – religion hated that people knew cures – making humans less that a perfect thing of god. Why they were burned and hunted.
Jinn elementals are non-human entities. Elementals are seen as negative energy manifestations.
A Pukwudgie is a 2-to-3-foot-tall (61 to 91 cm) being from the Wampanoag folklore. Pukwudgies‘ features resemble those of a human, but with enlarged noses, fingers and ears. Their skin is described as being a smooth grey, and at times has been known to glow. Pukwudgie – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pukwudgie
Little people of the Algonquin Tribes, Native Americans legends say a giant scattered them over northeast because they were too demanding so, now they hate us.
A brownie/brounie or urisk (Lowland Scots) or brùnaidh, ùruisg, or gruagach (Scottish Gaelic) is a legendary creature popular in folklore around Scotland and England (especially the north, though more commonly hobs have this role). It is the Scottish and Northern English counterpart of the Scandinavian tomte, the Slavic domovoi and the German Heinzelmännchen.
Wee Folk Fairies elemental:
An elemental is a mythic being described in occult and alchemical works from around the time of the European Renaissance and particularly elaborated in the 16th century works of Paracelsus. There are four elemental categories: gnomes, undines, sylphs, and salamanders. These correspond to the Classical elements of antiquity: earth, water, air and fire. Aether (quintessence) was not assigned an elemental. Terms employed for beings associated with alchemical elements vary by source and gloss. From <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elemental> can sometimes be hostile spirits.
In Hawaiian mythology, the Menehune are said to be a people, sometimes described as dwarfs in size, who live in the deep forests and hidden valleys of the Hawaiian Islands, far from the eyes of normal humans. Their favorite food is the maiʻa (banana), and they also like fish.From <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menehune>
In theory when you leave food out for these wee folk they would absorb the elemental force of the nourishment.
The Abrahamic religions do not believe in ethereal spirits except for Islam who believe in the Jinn:
Jinn, jann or djinn (singular: jinnī, djinni, or genie; Arabic: الجن al-jinn, singular الجني al-jinnī) are supernatural creatures in Islamic mythology as well as pre-Islamic Arabian mythology. Jinn – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn
The Key of Solomon and a ring were the only method that King Solomon had to control the Jinn, who he used to build the temple of Solomon:Les Johnson III
The Key of Solomon was for summoning and talking to all the spirits both good and bad. It was called the Ars Goetia:
For the various editions of the book, The Goetia, see Lesser Key of Solomon.
Goetia (Medieval Latin, anglicised goety /ˈɡoʊ.ɨti/, from Greek γοητεία goēteia “sorcery“) refers to a practice which includes the invocation of angels or of demons, and usage of the term in English largely derives from the 17th-century grimoire The Lesser Key of Solomon, which features an Ars Goetia as its first section. It contains descriptions of the evocation of seventy-two demons, famously edited by Aleister Crowley in 1904 as The Book of the Goetia of Solomon the King.
Goetic Theurgy, another practice described in the Lesser Key of Solomon, is similar to the book’s description of Goetia, but is used to invoke aerial spirits.
The key was used for building and directing energy through these elementals.
The ring was lost when a spirit took it and threw it in ocean. Solomon found it in a fish. In Judaism it is described as an iron band with four jewels and each jewel was for controlling elements (earth, air, water and fire) It was always made of iron and or bronze. The protection symbol was a star of David.
The Celts have long known that iron is injurious to elves – the one metal they don’t understand especially was steel which is carbonized iron. Iron has been used as protection: example, horse shoe over door –
Even Vampires were originally killed with an iron stake. The wooden one was very special and had to be made from the heart of an oak tree. Vampires supposedly have horrible OCD, for instance if you toss a knotted string at their feet they have to stop and pull all the knots out thereby giving you escape time.
Iron binds captures or rids elementals from you.
One of the reasons you see Celtic and Norse – knots work on broaches which are made of iron – Celts invented steel, and the blacksmiths were considered great magic users and were forced to live outside the village. Their work area was dark to mimic the cave – they control the earth elements wind: bellows, earth: ore, fire: smelter. Water: to quench the steel, transforming it.
Ulfbert sword was the first steel ever recorded in western history in 999bc.
Carbonized iron steel – how do they make it hot enough??? Plunge metal into ashes – carbonizing it, which makes it strong and bendable. You can use carbonized bear bones or whatever carbon type you were looking to endow the qualities from in your sword. Japanese sword makers quenched their swords in human blood which research have found changes the molecular structure of the steel.
Necronomicon: Is it evil?
No its really a compounding of a lot of different ancient writings. Its basically very old history. This book has cloudy origins beginning at the Magic Child arcane book store in NY city, owned by Herman Slater and may have been written by the owner of the shop.
Herman Slater founded the legendary Warlock Shoppe in Brooklyn Heights, New York, USA over 40 years ago, which was then reborn as the world-famous Magickal Childe, West 19th St. Greenwich Village New York City, USA. It had lots of old books, old grimoires. It could have been the Original Occult Google. ( it supposedly closed, but I found the http://www.yelp.com/biz/magickal-childe-bookstore-new-york and this http://www.magickalchilde.com/herman.html )
It is also rumored that H. P. Lovecraft’s compelling character, Abdul Alhazred, who is brought to life in this epic tale detailing the mad sorcerer’s tragic history and magical adventures was a real person who wrote the Necronomicon . From <https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl>
Les, who has studied the book says some is gibberish but it has symbols from all over: Sumerian texts, kabbalah, its not evil just a mish mash of old stuff – stories of elder gods and ancients. The story of the elders against man and ancients for us and how they wanted get rid of the ones who wanted to kill us. Very similar to the story of Enlil /Enki/Tiamat… our ancient history…. Plagiarism is common, Anton LaVey plagiarized from older texts.
Les is going to dig his copy up and re read: for history of solar system
Red Caps /dwarves:
A Red Cap or Redcap, also known as a powrie or dunter, is a type of malevolent murderous dwarf, goblin, elf or fairy found in Border Folklore. They are said to inhabit ruined castles found along the border between England and Scotland. They murder travelers and drag their caps in their victim’s blood, which is why their caps are red. More sightings of gnomes lately…From <https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl>
You tube video:
And at that point, we ended 🙂