Modern Mystics: the Experiencer Scientists

Mystic:

ORIGIN

Middle English (in the sense ‘mystical meaning’): from Old French mystique, or via Latin from Greek mustikos, from mustēs ‘initiated person’ from muein ‘close the eyes or lips’, also ‘initiate’. The current sense of the noun dates from the late 17th century. From mystes “one who has been initiated”   From <https://www.etymonline.com/word/mystic>

 

Philosopher scientist: when you go to look up this term, there are no proper definitions listed, as if there is an effort to wipe out, erase the knowledge of such men and how their minds worked. A philosopher scientist was a person who was guided by the intuition and knowledge that the world didn’t end at the physical that explored how both worlds, physical and nonphysical interacted. These men were by definition, mystics. A mystic is a person who peers into the unseen on purpose with the intent of learning and finding out how it interacts with the world. This is called Cross-Disciplinary research/thinking, the very opposite of a specialty-within-a-specialty, like todays view of science and provides a much greater understanding of the bigger picture. Today’s science is much like the ‘Three Blind Men and the Elephant’ in that each one of those blind men were correct, but they couldn’t perceive the whole elephant.

This is exactly what most of the leading thinkers are beginning to understand as they see the convergence of data happening, not only in the phenomenal/spiritual aspects of study but the scientific rational areas dovetailing one into the other.

In an excellent interview about Dr. Jeffery Kripal’s new book, Gordon White talks with Dr. Kripal about :

The Flip: Epiphanies of Mind and the Future of Knowledge Paperback – March 12, 2019 by Jeffrey J. Kripal (Author)

From <https://www.amazon.com/Flip-Epiphanies-Mind-Future-Knowledge/dp/1942658524>

 

A “flip,” writes Jeffrey J. Kripal, is “a reversal of perspective,” “a new real,” often born of an extreme, life-changing experience. The Flip is Kripal’s ambitious, visionary program for unifying the sciences and the humanities to expand our minds, open our hearts, and negotiate a peaceful resolution to the culture wars. Combining accounts of rationalists’ spiritual awakenings and consciousness explorations by philosophers, neuroscientists, and mystics within a framework of the history of science and religion, Kripal compellingly signals a path to mending our fractured world.

Jeffrey J. Kripal holds the J. Newton Rayzor Chair in Philosophy and Religious Thought at Rice University and is the associate director of the Center for Theory and Research at the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California. He has previously taught at Harvard Divinity School and Westminster College and is the author of eight books, including The Flip. He lives in Houston, Texas. From <https://www.amazon.com/Flip-Epiphanies-Mind-Future-Knowledge/dp/1942658524>

In this interview with Gordon, it is evident that Dr. Kripal has a deep grasp of what Steiner wrote about when he talked about how there was a danger involved in scientism overtaking the world and the 8th circle becoming a new fake reality by dint of losing the ability to see beyond the physical. (they do not talk about Steiner – but there is a huge parallel – see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EbntOIYdPM&t=4s)

Dr Kripal does, however talk about the wildly mystical adventures of hard core scientists that have led them to major discoveries and how these experiences create a ‘Flip’ in their world view. What I love about this interview is Gordon’s insistence on an even wider perspective than just ET’s or the like. To him, this is a cross-cultural, cross disciplinary, anthropological, scientific, ethnographical, magical rediscovery of the seen and unseen in the academic community.

 

So too does Rey Hernandez with Jeffery Mishlove. Rey’s new book is:

Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness & Contact with Non Human Intelligence (Volume 1) Paperback – July 22, 2018

by Reinerio Hernandez J.D. (Author), Rudy Schild PH.D. (Author), Jon Klimo PH.D. (Author)

From <https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-UFOs-Science-Consciousness-Intelligence/dp/1721088652/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=beyond+ufo%27s&qid=1554994383&s=books&sr=1-1>

This 820 page book details the academic research findings of the world’s first comprehensive multi-language quantitative and qualitative 5 year academic research study on individuals that have had UFO related contact with Non Human Intelligence (NHI)– The FREE Experiencer Research Study. Over the last 5 years FREE has collected detailed responses to 3 extensive quantitative and qualitative surveys from over 4,200 individuals from over 100 countries. Our survey findings from these thousands of “Experiencers” contradict much of what is circulating in mainstream materialist Ufology. Our academic book will establish a new paradigm for viewing the UAP (UFO) Contact Phenomenon. FREE argues that “Consciousness” and the paranormal and psychic aspects of this phenomenon is the key to understanding this complex phenomenon instead of the traditional materialist perspective of “nuts & bolt’s” Ufology. The Dr. Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Experiences, or FREE, is a 501c3 Academic Research Not for Profit Foundation. FREE was co-founded by the late Apollo 14 astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, Dr. Rudy Schild, an Emeritus Research Astronomer at the Harvard/Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics at Harvard University, Australian researcher Mary Rodwell and Rey Hernandez, an Attorney and Experiencer who was a Ph.D. Candidate at the University of California at Berkeley. FREE is comprised of retired academic professors and lay researchers who have been researching the field of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) and contact with Non-Human Intelligence (NHI) for more than 30 years. The Executive Director of FREE is Harvard Astrophysicist Dr. Rudy Schild. From <https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-UFOs-Science-Consciousness-Intelligence/dp/1721088652/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=beyond+ufo%27s&qid=1554994383&s=books&sr=1-1>

In a recent interview, New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove Published on Apr 10, 2019, Rey Hernandez, JD, cofounder of the Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research on Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Experience (FREE), editor of and contributor to the anthology, Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness and Contact with Non Human Intelligence, Volume 1; Rey describes a series of remarkable experiences in his own life involving remarkable healing, non-human entities, and UFOs. These led him to develop the hypothesis that a variety of “contact modalities”, usually considered distinct phenomena, are all related. These include shamanic journeys, out of body experiences, ghosts and spirits, UFO, remote viewing, channeling, and mystical states of consciousness. These visionary experiences led him to contact astronaut Edgar Mitchell and subsequently create the new organization, FREE. From <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ckk8xO_wbE>

In this interview, we get to hear Rey say basically the same thing as Dr. Kripal. Granted, these are two academics – but they both have had their own “Flip” experience. Rey’s lead to a world study and data base detailing findings that prove the validity of Dr. Kripal’s book ‘The Flip”.

Everywhere I turn recently I am finding more and more researchers that have had the ‘look at the bigger picture’ download. We even have this term ‘download’ that doesn’t apply to a computer anymore, but to an ‘anomalous’ phenomena concerning information ‘placed’ within a person’s consciousness by unknown intelligence. What that intelligence might be is most vividly discussed by Gordon White, who IMO, has very creatively evicted his mind out of the common thinking box and into a world of glorious unknowns, exploring with the greatest aplomb and intelligence that I have seen in a very long while.

There are others who are catching on – Grant Cameron with his theory of “WOW”! , and his recent speaking program titled Contact Modalities. I laughed when he said he thought that no UFO really needed lights on the craft and that the only reason they had them was to attract our attention! – theory of WOW! All of his research on right and left brain functioning, how to get contact by shutting off the monkey mind, creative people, artists and musicians, autism, split personality and the attendant DNA change that has been scientifically documented in one body according which personality is present. If I’m not mistaken Grant has also proven this happens with channelers too.

The weight of the evidence pointing to my little wittitude of years back: Consciousness IS the Unified Field is rapidly becoming un-ignorable. On all fronts and in all disciplines, there is a thread, a connection to consciousness. From ancient priests to scientist-philosophers to experiencer-scientists of today. Which brings me to Diana Pasulka.

Diana Pasulka’s new book is amazing, her view point erudite and eye opening from an academic point of view, especially from the religious studies genre.

American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology Hardcover – February 20, 2019  by D.W. Pasulka (Author)

More than half of American adults and more than seventy-five percent of young Americans believe in intelligent extraterrestrial life. This level of belief rivals that of belief in God. American Cosmic examines the mechanisms at work behind the thriving belief system in extraterrestrial life, a system that is changing and even supplanting traditional religions.

Over the course of a six-year ethnographic study, D.W. Pasulka interviewed successful and influential scientists, professionals, and Silicon Valley entrepreneurs who believe in extraterrestrial intelligence, thereby disproving the common misconception that only fringe members of society believe in UFOs. She argues that widespread belief in aliens is due to a number of factors including their ubiquity in modern media like The X-Files, which can influence memory, and the believability lent to that media by the search for planets that might support life. American Cosmic explores the intriguing question of how people interpret unexplainable experiences, and argues that the media is replacing religion as a cultural authority that offers believers answers about non-human intelligent life. From <https://www.amazon.com/American-Cosmic-UFOs-Religion-Technology/dp/019069288X/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1_sspa?crid=2J4W4IJSP96EZ&keywords=american+cosmic+ufos%2C+religion%2C+technology&qid=1554998276&s=books&sprefix=american+cosmic%2Cstripbooks%2C165&sr=1-1-fkmrnull-spons&psc=1>

Here’s the silly clincher though, all of us who have had contact have never needed verification of our own selves and our own experiences. Those that have the skills to use the exchange of information go on to do it and brings us great revelations and advancements for mankind, those that don’t have skills, like me, simply get to grow in spirit and heart.

I’d be willing to bet that if you asked every person alive in a 3D body on this earth at this time if they knew, quietly in the back of their mind, in their awareness somewhere that this is all true – without the cultural names and implications – without having to admit it to anybody else, they would all agree – we have all known for a very long time. It’s simply a problem of straightening the language out, the cultural beliefs out, such that one day we can all take a collective breath and sigh in relief that we can just say,

“Yeah, we knew – we knew all along. Cat’s outta the bag now, no problem man, no witch hunts, no roastings, no drownings, no lock ups and most especially no more killings over this issue.”

I wish we could just get out there and get on with it.

 

 

 

 

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It’s a beautiful thing…

The new alternative physics: torsion, resonance, frequency, scalar and all things plasma – the hidden physics, is actually all about one thing: The Electromagnetic Spectrum of Energy frequencies in all its speeds/states. We persist in trying to take it down to its smallest components, never realizing that it is all one thing, just like we do with UFO’s and phenomena/spiritual things, never realizing it simply seems separate because of our body’s perceptual systems limitations.

 

BIG FALSEHOOD: if you can’t perceive it with body senses, it’s not there.

 

This is the crux of the entire problem. Body senses are NOT the only senses we have. The lie is the reality structuring premise that: if you can’t perceive it with body senses, it’s not there.

Logic check:

We can’t see air, but we breathe it

We can’t see gravity but we stick

We can’t see inertia, but we feel it

We can’t see radio frequency waves, but we use them (where would we be without our cell phones?)

Therefore: might there be other things invisible that can be there?

So we only perceive a very teensy, tiny part of the electromagnetic universe. It doesn’t mean the rest of it is not there. The rest of it IS ALL of the phenomena we are confused about from death and spirits to UFO’s and ET/ED’s to fairies, criptids and EVERYTHING else we perceive but have no understanding for.

The physics of wave dynamics and sizes more commonly called Scale Invariance (In physics, mathematics, statistics, and economics, scale invariance is a feature of objects or laws that do not change if scales of length, energy, or other variables, are multiplied by a common factor, thus represent a universality – Scale invariance – Wikipedia) is what can actually describe all the rest of it, and once you can describe a process you can do two things: change it or engineer it.

When you change or alter the electromagnetic spectrum in any frequency to engineer and produce desired effects, you change or alter the energy running through it and thereby produce effects.

Here is the point: if you know the EMF frequency – its address, sort of – of anything, a thought, a feeling, a plant, a body organ, a metal; you can change, distort, disassemble, transport to anywhere, or fix anything with just energy.

The basis of it is that all our compartmentalized concepts of time-space and matter-energy are not separate entities but are transmutable under the same conditions of electromagnetic disturbance. (1)

(1) Secrets of the Unified Field: The Philadelphia Experiment, Nazi Bell, and the Discarded Theory. Joseph P. Farrell Adventures Unlimited Press 2008

https://alsionsbells.wordpress.com/2017/10/16/supernatural-is-a-null-word/

 

Bottom line, if you have 2 counter rotating electromagnetic fields in close proximity you can control time and reality.

It’s only a matter of placement and harmonics. The question becomes, at what level do you want that control? On a consciousness level or a physical matter level? Will you know how to control it to get the results you want – can you bench engineer it? Repeat it? Scale it? Therein the consideration of the electrical power/potential of the field becomes the issue. IE: the Die Glocke ripped holes in the fabric of space time the same as the atom bomb – power… OR Think 5G – very tiny waves on the order of the human cellular size…

Throughout the entire electromagnetic spectrum – there is a matching 3D analogue/concept for all the frequencies – that gives us right-out, the matching harmonious resonance for us to see and use.

 

It’s all about the harmonies…

 

The point is that if by analogy we can scale this information up and down, just like the EM-field, there should be a point in there where we can see it working in the human body-mind-spirit complex. For instance Mind and Heart two electromagnetic tori (toruses) with their single meeting point, at the throat chakra, whose color I might add is blue, synchronized spinning at that point, which is the same as ‘the pinch’, the Zp (zero point) – the crossing point, where the correctly spoken word is made into sound (another ELF frequency band) may actually do something, or change something, actually have some effect in the outer world… https://alsionsbells.wordpress.com/2018/05/27/the-bench-engineering-of-consciousness/

“When you consider that human beings are the divider between matter and spirit – that we hold both and touch both through consciousness: it makes humanity a portal – doorway through which information is shared to either side of the equation or through the portal. Therefore, just about anything can be looked on as a portal – for in a way, a portal is that ‘idea’ of a crossing point from one state into another.”

Reality runs 10 to the 23rd power times per second. This is like a very high RF energy wave running into the potential points in the quantum hologram and producing a ‘snap shot’ or collapsing the wave into a particle which IS our reality/snapshot and it all happens so fast that we don’t notice when we are a non-materialized wave.

These quantum points of potential that make up the hologram are information. The wave form is consciousness…

Reality is therefore a condition of energy/consciousness bumping into, or connecting with the hologram (which is a wave guide) and time is in reality just a blip every 10 to the 23rd time per second that they are touching. It is the movement through the hologram of the energy wave that creates space and time as it connects to the potentials of the hologram. This is how we ‘create’ our reality.   https://alsionsbells.wordpress.com/2018/07/12/on-dna-glinda-balls-and-reality-antennas/

Were you to stop time – freeze the motion of the universe, you would see the lattice structure (very similar to the structure of a crystal) of the physical medium – the zero point field, essentially it’s wave guide. Everything that has matter exists as a part of, or in this field. The very fact that we are consciousness, intelligent awareness is what is attracting and cohering the matter that makes the physical bodies that we inhabit. This is the same for any manifested shape in the physical realm, which presupposes intelligent awareness of one kind or another of everything we can see and touch and some that we can’t.

What we are seeing when we look at the world are interference patterns between matter and spirit that have aggregated mass – physicality. There is a science to this and it is called interferometry.

Interferometry is a family of techniques in which waves, usually electromagnetic waves, are superimposed causing the phenomenon of interference in order to extract information.[1] Interferometry is an important investigative technique in the fields of astronomy, fiber optics, engineering metrology, optical metrology, oceanography, seismology, spectroscopy (and its applications to chemistry), quantum mechanics, nuclear and particle physics, plasma physics, remote sensing, biomolecular interactions, surface profiling, microfluidics, mechanical stress/strain measurement, velocimetry, and optometry.[2]:1–2

These patterns equate to what could be called a template. This template can be measured for every manifested thing from rocks and dirt through all life forms up and to weather and energy.

The fact that we are aware – conscious is what is important. The recognition that ‘we know’ is what enables us to make change in either state, matter and or spirit. We ARE the interface – the template and we ARE aware of this. So:

affect the lattice – affect us and/or affect the us – affect the lattice

In other words, you can’t change one without producing change in the other. Physics, the new alternative physics: torsion, resonance, frequency, scalar and all things plasma – the hidden physics, is what can actually describe this process, and once you can describe a process you can do two things: change it or engineer it. https://alsionsbells.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/templates-of-change-some-musings-for-the-day/

So far as we know, the current developments from this look like  this:

Starting at 2:41.

2:50 electrostatic drive.

3:19 mass cancellation

Vortexing counter rotating liquid mercy pressurized and electrified which creates a plasma bubble around craft magnet plasmic space time bubble to

to nullify inertia

in frequency modulation for (changing the frequency)

camouflage

dimensional tuning/travel

TR3B can do all of this.

 

The only thing not mentioned is the zero point energy module required for the immense electric power output to run both systems. Obviously they have figured it out or we wouldn’t be seeing these things flying around.

Next, this video happened a year ago and is an excellent example of if you wait long enough the other connection points you need will show up in information you are trying to vet for yourself in a big Ah Ha!

53:53

em frequencies – radiation re: physical effects/symptoms study Condign Report PDF.  UAP effects panel to include astronauts

Frequencies per EM fields and effects

Plasmas to hide in –

cloak inside a plasma ball

what is inside can’t be detected

radar can’t read

Hiding in clouds

Mirror effects

Blue shifting: blue shift effect means frequency shifted higher = invisible quasi visible.

All EM field effects we are learning to produce are moving towards – Star Trek

Meta Material: Microscopic wave guide for very high electromagnetic frequency in the THz (Terra hertz – terribly high) range.

Space time metric engineering

Space time engineered differently, then speed of light is different

And as to the meta-materials, they are wave guides – same as the quantum hologram only lots, lots bigger.

Farrell talks about grid systems which are wave guides used as multipliers and focusers of electromagnetic energy in systems set up to a resonation of target. See interferometry, and think weapons. The sad thing about all of this is that there is not one thing that we have that cannot be or isn’t used as a weapon (Miles to Go…)

Wave guide:

Electromagnetism. 

In electromagnetics and communications engineering, the term waveguide may refer to any linear structure that conveys electromagnetic waves between its endpoints.

Optics

An optical waveguide is a physical structure that guides electromagnetic waves in the optical spectrum. Common types of optical waveguides include optical fiber and rectangular waveguides. Wikipedia

 

I’ve hammered a lot on frequency, resonances (harmony of frequencies in octaves etc.) and how we swim in this soup of frequency – we actually ARE part of that soup – and how are bodies are what amount to wave guides themselves and how we have bench engineered it already in a million creative ways. Once you understand how to use, create and emit frequencies and understand resonance, you can literally create matter out of energy. But, ‘Oh my Gosh!!’ if we did that we wouldn’t need our Lords and Masters anymore…..

However, if we could get these understandings and technologies into peoples hands that have more than just greed in their hearts, we could very quickly change the earth. And we need to.

Change the Earth

Very Quickly

 

 

 

 

This Damned Aeon Game

It has been said, that humanity is not ready for advanced information because we would use it wrongly – an Atlantean racial memory, perhaps? In all the old records about this society – the channelings, the pulling down of info from the akashic records/siddhis, we are met with this one point – that a war between peoples destroyed the earth and collapsed an advanced high civilization. That they all migrated and integrated themselves into other civilizations and social systems on the earth while keeping their ideations alive – albeit secret. Joseph Farrel has an entire series of books that are written from an examination of ancient writings and academic studies on the translation of these records that show, illuminate this thread through time up to today.

Those two factions have been named the Belial Group and the Great White Brotherhood. (1) Their legacy comes down through time to today in the cabal/deep state and the mystery schools. Their infighting also continues today in that every positive movement message to teach society higher principles has been eventually twisted, and the new awareness movement has clued us all into what the deep state has been/is up to.

IMO if the information to raise humanity’s hearts and minds had been released earlier, even though humanity ‘wasn’t‘ ready for it, I think it would have eventually brought us to a different space – today, a more enlightened place where the current stranglehold on our hearts and minds may not have happened because this information has a peculiar effect to it that tends to raise and enlighten all those that come in contact with it. It has this ‘effect’ of opening up consciousness, changing DNA and evolving the soul. It would have been inevitable.

The argument against this was that the technology could have also been used to create great and horrible planet killing sciences – like the atom bomb. Notice, however, that some of it – like the bomb, made it out into mainstream and, well, we are still here. There was another part of this tech related to frequency harmonics and radio/microwave technology that also made it out ( from supposedly the good side and was twisted) and is being used for nefarious purposes against us in things like 5G and the space fence.

In occulting the main part of the understanding of this science the real effect was for us to get caught in developing devices/tech that use a dangerous part of it to try to help society, like nuclear power stations, that ultimately have turned against us by becoming an ecological disaster. Also, in occulting most of this information we are not prepared for it’s wrong use AGAINST US because we are unable to understand the whole of the weapon being used – BECAUSE THE SCIENCE IS TILL SECRET!

There is evidence littered all through society that this tech is being used behind our backs by an entire higher strata of advanced society that we have no part of, and it was/is created from the sweat of our backs and brows.

 

Richard Dolan talks about the breakaway civilization.

DW, CG, ES and JS all talk about the secret space program. (2)

Kathryn Austin Fitts talks about where the money comes from to support both the breakaway civilization and the SSP, how we are robbed of not only the money but the tech that could help us and what they are using it for.

Joseph P. Farrell talks about the origin of the two sides of the warring factions through historical proof, and also tracks the science, the secrecy and the money it took to keep it that way from a global perspective

Dark Journalist is chronicling the more modern mystery school vs. deep state roots and the twisted path through politics and government influence the information has been hidden.

Dean Radin is exploring how to rebirth it through science and demystify it.

Grant Cameron is following it through the UFO/phenomenology foot print.

LMH is documenting it through the tracking and reporting of anomalous events and amazing original thinking when connecting the dots.

Nick Redfern is tracking it through cryptozoology and myth and legend.

JAWs (John Anthony West) was exploring it through ancient Egypt.

Carmen Boulter is using sheer intuition and her academic training to go against institutional ideas and finding amazing archeological hidden treasures.

People like Wall Thornhill, Dr. Robert Schoch and Brian Foerster are all boots on the ground scientists who have bucked the system.

 

These are the people whose research is where to start looking when you want to see the outer pattern of this current mess and the unholy game going on today. Through all of these people who found a thread of this reality and pursued it, we find one commonality and that is a state of consciousness, a willingness to think out of the box and really see – an expanded consciousness – an ‘X’ factor, as DJ has been calling it of late. One that enables us to see differently information that has been in front of our noses in plain sight forever.

Consciousness is the unified field. Everything that could possibly be done to hide this fact has been done. This fact is not even worthy of a why, it requires we zero in on our own consciousness and head straight to the heart of the matter. It means we don’t stop till we figure it out. This is a branch of information that is civilization changing, civilization stabilizing, survival ensuring, life enhancing information.

Grant Cameron absolutely swears that the UFO tech does NOT work unless there is a state of consciousness that guides it, that the whole UFO question will be understood from a point of consciousness, not only nuts and bolts. Further, it has been documented that anybody who has had contact with the phenomenal effect will show a change in their DNA.

Since DNA is a frequency, (3) I posit that whatever this effect, this information is, it radically changes our frequency which is something the new 5G and the terrestrial space fence are trying to destroy….

To get ahead of this game, IMO, it is necessary to imagine 20 steps ahead if not more, have a planetary – nay, solar system grasp of the politics going on and have an open mind enough to be able to put this information together in odd and wonderful ways. The only way we regular people have of ever dreaming of getting a hold of this damned aeon game is by getting a head of the curve, because we will never have enough money or power or prestige to do it any other way.

 

We have minds.

It’s now time to use them.

 

 

 

(1) https://www.historicmysteries.com/edgar-cayce-atlantis/

http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/waymac/Sociology/A%20Term%202/Simulation%20on%20Governments/Casey%20Prophecy.htm

 

(2) David Wilcock, Corey Goode. Emery Smith and Jason Sather

 

(3) DNA Science and What Russian Researchers Have Surprisingly Discovered…

http://undergroundhealthreporter.com/dna-science-and-reprograming-your-dna/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvf48f3rF-M

 

 

The people Links:

Dolan http://richarddolanmembers.com/

Wilcock https://divinecosmos.com/

Goode https://spherebeingalliance.com/

Smith https://youtu.be/AnkUrXzco48

Sather https://www.secretspaceprogram.com/

Fitts https://home.solari.com/

Farrell https://gizadeathstar.com/

Liszt http://www.darkjournalist.com/reports.php

Radin http://www.deanradin.org/

Cameron http://www.presidentialufo.com/

Howe https://www.earthfiles.com/

Redfern http://nickredfernfortean.blogspot.com/

West http://www.jawest.net/links.htm

Boulter http://www.pyramidcode.com/

Thornhill https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

Schoch http://www.robertschoch.com/

Foerster https://hiddenincatours.com/

 

 

AATIP is not AATIP! It is AAWSAP: Why FOIA requests have failed!

I find this MORE than interesting.

http://richarddolanmembers.com/ufos/breaking-news-on-aatip-paul-dean-strikes-again/

Breaking News on AATIP: Paul Dean Strikes Again!
By Richard Dolan | April 29, 2018

I just received a message from friend and fellow researcher Paul Dean from Australia. If you don’t know, Paul is one of the world’s best UFO document researchers, as expert in filing FOIA requests as anyone out there. Moreover, he is a virtual encyclopedia when it comes to the arcane world of military acronyms, nomenclature, and especially the labyrinthian maze of the U.S. national security bureaucracy. This is important if you want to file a FOIA request to the right agency, using the right language, and with an expectation that you will get a response.

Paul and I communicate fairly regularly. Today he told me that the famous UFO program of the Pentagon, recently written about in the New York Times and elsewhere, actually has gone under a different name. Publically, we have been told that the name of the program was the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). In reality, Paul has learned from an impeccable source that the original contractual name for it was the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program (AAWSAP).

This is very important. Reason: you may have heard that all FOIA requests relating to AATIP have come up empty. The total number of requests by now might well be in the hundreds, but it’s certainly quite a lot. People have been wondering, why can’t this program be found via FOIA requests when the ultra-establishment New York Times itself outed it? The word is that there definitely was such a program — actually multiple programs. So why was AATIP invisible?

This may well be the answer. It’s under a different name.

Getting FOIA documentation on AAWSAP is critical to learning more about the details of the program, since no one seems to be talking. Not Elizondo, not Tom DeLonge, not Robert Bigelow, not Harry Reid, not anyone. There are many unanswered questions about this program and it’s becoming frustrating for UFO researchers to feel like they are flailing in the wind with no new tangible information.

Paul has filed some fresh FOIA requests to agencies that he believes are appropriate and good bets to get some answers. You can find his blog here.

By the way, I chatted with Paul about the significance of the name. “Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program.” This might seem to indicate that the objects caught on video were not actual UFOs, but weapons systems developed by the U.S. military. Paul doesn’t seem to think so, and I myself would have my doubts as well. The few qualified individuals I have spoken to about the released videos (and the longer versions which have not been shown to the public) have deemed the objects to be unexplainable as far as they can see.

So we are still dealing with a great mystery. Not only the objects themselves and who is responsible for them, but penetrating the layers of secrecy and bureaucracy that surround the information we are seeking.
Category: Blog Free Content UFOs Tags: AATIP, AAWSAP, Paul Dean, UFO

 

Then, follow it up with this one.

 

http://ufos-documenting-the-evidence.blogspot.com/

Monday, 30 April 2018

The “Advanced Aerospace
Weapons Systems Application Program”

Last year, in 2017, a hitherto unacknowledged US Department of Defense (DOD) UFO study program, as if we need reminding, was publicly revealed. The name of this effort has been quoted as the “Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program” (AATIP). Sometimes the word “Aviation”, rather than “Aerospace”, has been used in the title, but whatever the exact terminology, the DoD themselves have confirmed, at least, that it did exist. The massive Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) was where it was housed, and the accepted timespan of the endeavor was 2007 to 2012. Official UFO analysis work continues today, and was apparently migrated to a new interagency partnership, but that story will have to wait. The AATIP effort was headed by DOD staffer, Luis Elizondo, who specializes in the intelligence, counter–intelligence and security arena. So much has now been authored and debated about this whole affair, that it would be pointless to rehash the same information yet again.

In March, 2018, I was contacted by someone who claimed to be in a senior defense program leadership role. He stated that the UFO program on everyone’s lips was not officially called the “Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program” (AATIP). This was, apparently, a loose, almost ad hoc term for one part of a somewhat larger defense program. The true name of the overall program, or at least the official starting title, was the “Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program” (AAWSAP), or something extremely similar. Of course, even by early 2018, dozens, if not hundreds, of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests, including some by myself, have been submitted to the Defense Intelligence Agency, and other organizations, about the quoted AATIP effort. All have met with lethargy and processing wait times measuring in the months or years. Armed with this information, on the 27th of March, 2018, I submitted an FOI request to the DIA which asked for:

“…any electronic or hardcopy records that include: mission statements, program overviews, program aims, fact sheets, program briefs for Commanders or other senior leadership, program histories, and other general information regarding a program (either still running, or, was running in the last 12 years) within the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). The name of that program is “Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program (AAWSAP) or extremely similar.”

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Then if you listen to the last 15 minutes of Phenomenon Radio on KGRA, from Thursday, April 26, 2018, you will hear the same lament about not finding any success with FOIA requests. This does NOT surprise me because I see this whole thing as a disinformation ploy, granted, not a very good one, but non the less, if you were not a researcher, you’d never be able to make any sense of the twists and turns and hoops to jump through to get to the right place and the right information.

I just sorta expect to be lead around by my nose – and also expect there are ways to get around it. Keep on keep’in on,  or as Jimmy church would say “Keep roll’in that rock up hill!”